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		<title>Refinance From A Conventional Loan To An FHA Loan? Why??</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have heard more and more clients tell me that some nameless, faceless mortgage people or &#034;friends&#034; have told them they should refinance from a Conventional loan to an FHA loan. Huh? Usually the smart advice giver is giving the advice because they know the client has had a hard time getting a sufficient appraisal [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have heard more and more clients tell me that some nameless, faceless mortgage people or &#034;friends&#034; have told them they should refinance from a Conventional loan to an FHA loan. Huh? Usually the smart advice giver is giving the advice because they know the client has had a hard time getting a sufficient appraisal to refinance as a Conventional loan, and that FHA requires much less equity.</p>
<p>Wow, I am surprised that such incredibly expensive advice is still being passed out.</p>
<p>Here is why I find that advice silly,<span id="more-503"></span> and if you have a friend who is refinancing off of a Conventional loan with no PMI and onto an FHA loan you need to beg him/her to NOT do that.</p>
<p>The maximum FHA loan is $729,000 in a high cost area. Let&#039;s assume you owe around that amount.</p>
<p>All FHA loans, regardless of LTV and equity position, have mortgage insurance. The up front FHA MIP (Mortgage Insurance Premium) is currently 1.75% and is scheduled to go to 2.25%. The latest FHA rule changes were passed weeks ago, so I am unsure when new FHA loans will be subjected to the increase. Let&#039;s assume we could sneak you in at the 1.75%, that is $12,757 in mortgage insurance premium. You can either pay that out of pocket or finance it into the loan, 99% of FHA loans finance it into the loan, which effectively raises the cost over time since you&#039;ll be paying interest on it. That interest is about $70/month at today&#039;s rates.</p>
<p>There is also monthly FHA mortgage insurance, which is .55% of the loan divided by 12 (this is also schedule to rise slightly). This would be $334/month.</p>
<p>So you have already paid an increase of $404 a month for the FHA mortgage insurance plan.</p>
<p>And you have artificially raised your loan amount by $12,757 to finance in the FHA MIP. This is on top of approximately $4,000 in title and lender closing costs.</p>
<p>So the ultimate total cost to refi the loan is enormous:</p>
<p>$12,757 in up front PMI<br />
$4,000 in closing costs<br />
$404 a month in extra payments, $4800 annually, $24,000 over 5 years, etc.</p>
<p>I have people who complain down to a few hundred dollars when I quote them $4000 in costs to the title company, lender and appraiser, why you&#039;d spend the enormous sums above I am not sure. A refi is supposed to be about saving money, not spending it.</p>
<p>I know some people are in an utter state of panic over the future, and I am concerned to a degree. But for banks and lenders to take advantage of people&#039;s fear and sell them an expensive FHA loan, I believe, is negligent.</p>
<p>An FHA loan is for someone who is low-moderately qualified, with weaker credit scores, and little assets. I know people use this loan for purposes it was not intended, but I feel this is a BIG stretch if you are well qualified, and it is too expensive if you currently have a Conventional loan. </p>
<p>And no matter what your loan amount, even if you owe much less than the $729,250 maximum FHA loan amount, when you take 1.75% to 2.25% of it for the up front Mortgage Insurance Premium, and then you take .55% and divide by 12 for the monthly mortgage insurance payments, it creates way too much cost to make a refinance make sense.</p>
<p>If you currently have an FHA loan then this is a different story. An FHA-to-FHA refinance can be done more cheaply, might be able to be done as a &#034;streamline refinance&#034;, and the homeowners is already paying mortgage insurance so there is no adjustment.</p>
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