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		<title>If I Want To Keep My Current Property And Rent It, And Buy A New Property, I Have To Do What&#8230;???</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 14:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brianm</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Underwriting Rules]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are looking to buy a new house, and want to keep your current home as a rental property, on a Conventional loan you need to show the lender making the loan on your new home some things that you would not if you were selling your current home instead of renting it. You [...]]]></description>
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<p>If you are looking to buy a new house, and want to keep your current home as a rental property, on a Conventional loan you need to show the lender making the loan on your new home some things that you would not if you were selling your current home instead of renting it.  You need to show 6 months &#034;cash reserves&#034; after the down payment and closing costs on the new house, and you need a 70% loan-to-value (LTV) on your current home, as evidenced by an appraisal.<span id="more-626"></span></p>
<p>If you meet both of these requirements, you can count the rental income on your current house to offset the mortgage, which will help you qualify for the new mortgage. Otherwise, you will have to qualify for the new mortgage carrying &#034;all&#034; the debt on the current mortgage and using no rental income to offset the debt, and usually most people cannot qualify for two mortgages at the same time.</p>
<p>And if you do meet the cash reserves and the 70% LTV requirements outlined above, the banking industry will only count 75% of the gross rent on your current home (as evidenced by a lease) to offset the mortgage. They take away 25% to account for vacancies, expenses and maintenance. So if you have a $3,400 a month mortgage, and can show a $4,000 a month lease, they will only count 75% of that $4,000 a month lease (or $3,000) against the old mortgage. In this case, $4,000 gross rent, with $3,000 net rent (after 25% deduction) would leave a $400 a month shortfall against the $3,400 a month mortgage and would be counted against you as a debt in your debt ratios.</p>
<p>When people learn of the above, they end up realizing that in many cases they need to sell their current property, if if they have a desire to keep it as a rental property.</p>
<p>If you are taking out an FHA loan for your new purchase, the rules are the same except you only need a 75% Loan-To-Value on the current home, as evidenced by a recent appraisal. Either way, buying a new home without selling yours and trying to rent it has become much more difficult.</p>
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		<title>Do Investment Properties Cash Flow?</title>
		<link>http://www.getloans.com/blog/archives/469</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brianm</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[housing values]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone else noticed that buying new investment real estate does not cash flow? At today&#039;s prices, which are likely lower than in the last several years, you still seem unable to find real estate that can turn a profit as a rental property. I wonder why that is? A January 3rd 2010 article in [...]]]></description>
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<p>Has anyone else noticed that buying new investment real estate does not cash flow? At today&#039;s prices, which are likely lower than in the last several years, you still seem unable to find real estate that can turn a profit as a rental property. I wonder why that is?<span id="more-469"></span></p>
<p>A January 3rd 2010 article in the &#034;Washington Post&#034; titled &#034;Cash-rich real estate investors trigger bidding wars, frustrate other buyers&#034; discussed how investors are beating out homeowners in making offers on homes, but these investors are solely the type to buy a property, fix it up, and sell it for a profit to a homeowner. That seems to be the only real estate &#034;investment&#034; going on these days, by real estate investors. These &#034;investors&#034; were not of the &#034;buy and hold&#034; sort.</p>
<p>So my question revolves around the &#034;why&#034; of the story, not how. Why can you not turn a profit renting real estate if you buy real estate at today&#039;s prices? Is real estate still vastly over priced? Are there simply far too few renters in the Washington DC Metro area, too few to push up rents to the point of positive cash flow? My guess is that this is the case in most areas of the country, certainly most urban areas. What is the answer to my question?</p>
<p>I took a call from a client recently, who was excited to buy a piece of investment real estate, and hold it for the long haul. But my first question without even knowing the numbers was &#034;why?&#034;. I had a feeling it would not cash flow, and wondered if the investor had even gone through the numbers. He had not.</p>
<p>The investor told me the price of the townhouse was $410,000. He saw this as a bargain since it was a bank sale/foreclosure, and he thought the value was more realistically $440,000. I told him the total mortgage payment, after putting down 20% (20% is the current minimum down payment for buying investment real estate) would be $2518 when including taxes, insurance and a small HOA fee. I then asked him how much it would rent for, the answer was $2100/month! Clearly this is a home that is suitable only to a homeowner, or if the numbers support it, an investor purchase, renovation, and quick resale for a profit. No investor would want to buy a long term rental property at a $418/month loss, and I did not even include expenses for maintenance, repairs and property management expense.</p>
<p>And the above story is not unique. I have been in the mortgage business for over 24 years, and I have not seen a property show a positive cash flow since the late 1990&#039;s. So it all makes me wonder &#034;why?&#034;. Why is it that real estate in the Washington DC Metro area, and most other areas, does not seem to ever show a positive cash flow? Anyone else have any theories?</p>
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